Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead!

liveincollege:

femmeney:

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femmeney:

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femmeney:

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femmeney:

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lesbianathogwarts:

windexwaker:

captain-jack-hardness:

i hate black girls

the sentence above is racist, but if you replace black girls with white girls you get a funny 1000+ note text post instead

fuck, its finally time someone pointed this out

There’s a blog that I follow…

Yo buddy. I don’t actually know who you are, and I really don’t know Lauren that well either. I don’t actually agree with either of the things that she said but you know what I REALLY don’t agree with? Telling someone that you are embarrassed that they go to mount holyoke with you. Firstly, that was ridiculously elitist of you, secondly, to say something like that does not honor mount holyoke in your word and deed so you broke the honor code, and thirdly, outright call one of your sisters terrible is pretty much bullying. Dissent is great, go ahead and disagree with whatever you want. Have heated discussions that are passionate and enlightening, but you know what you don’t do? Stoop to bullying and dishonoring your college just because you disagree with someone. You’re right to be embarrassed, but not of mount holyoke, of your conduct. Do not be shocked if you hear from the honor council. Have a nice day.

Oh hey, “buddy.”

I think it’s fair to say that I’m embarrassed to go to school with someone who posts incredibly awful things in the mount holyoke tag about people with eating disorders, and also posts things that are racist, bigoted, and ignorant. I don’t know how accurately saying either of those things are shitty in any way constitutes bullying or dishonoring my college. I am comfortable hearing from the honor code council because I believe in everything that I said. 

Have a nice day.

There is a huge difference between saying something a person says is shitty and that a person in general is shitty aka what you said. Yeah, what she said was a bit ignorant but what you said was combative, rude, elitist, harsh, and meets the criteria for bullying. Seriously, if this is how you deal with arguments then you will never change anyone’s mind.

to quote myself, from the first post:

“maybe she’s actually not shitty and has since learned something. nope.”

I’m not saying she is shitty, but rather that if she learned something then her actions/words would be non-shitty. currently, her actions/words are pretty shitty.

Honestly, I think you’re debating semantics with me which is not particularly helpful. The crux of what it sounds like you’re mad about is my tone, which I don’t particularly care about. Lesbianathogwarts has said things that are incredibly offensive and it makes sense that I’m mad and that others are mad. I did not set out to change anyone’s mind or educate her - that’s not my job. I just want her to know that there are people who definitely do not agree with her bigoted and insensitive views. Tumblr is a public sphere and I’m well within my rights to reblog something and state my views. How is any of that bullying?

eta: if we’re really bringing this to the honor code council, I think it will reflect more poorly on lesbianathogwarts than upon me. I made no mention of the school in my initial post, and she posted in the tumblr tracked tag in an insensitive and offensive manner about people with eating disorders. I’m just baffled that anyone could think this constitutes anything related to breaking the honor code on my part.

I do see how someone could be triggered by it, but I also see how someone could not see that. Freaking out on someone and being nasty and spiteful does not reflect well on you, MHC, or your beliefs. Yelling and being mean isn’t helpful to your cause or her opinions. If you’re looking for a release to get out your anger, I suggest speaking to friends. You have broken the honor code, wether or not you see it is your own issue.

I don’t see where I “freaked out” or was nasty or spiteful. Nor do I see anywhere that I yelled or was mean. These are all your interpretations of what I said on the internet. It’s incredibly hard to read tone on the internet, and I seriously think you’ve misread what I said. I have not broken the honor code in any way and I stand by what I said completely.

Did you actually already report me to the HCC? I have not been contacted by them yet, but I’m interested to hear what they’ll have to say (if anything).

It is your responsibility to think of how people are going to take what you’ve written on the Internet. You’re aware that I can’t hear your tone or inflection and you need to think about that when you say something about a person being shitty and that you’re ashamed that they attend your school. If you apologized to her then I probably would not but since you seem intent on defending your poor conduct, I probably will.

I don’t think my tone reflected any of the things that you have said; I wasn’t responding in all caps or attacking her personally, and I question how I could have “yelled” over the internet. Feel free to bring it to the honor code council. I’m a graduating senior with a history of feminist activism and good work at this school.

I will never apologize for calling someone out for their racism and insensitivity towards people with disordered eating. I will not respond to any further reblogs, as this is really becoming a waste of my time.

Ok your refusing to even consider that what you’ve said is problematic leads me to believe that your activism is probably pretty darn ineffective. You called a person shifty and if you don’t think that’s wrong then you really need to rethink the way you interact with people.

Calling someone out on making racist statements is an incredibly important thing. Femmeney has already defended herself (and I don’t see any yelling); confidencebucket and thegreatbibliophile have gone into great detail about what, exactly, makes lesbianathogwarts’ statement problematic; and lesbianathogwarts still refuses to see that she’s done anything wrong.

As for being embarrassed about attending the same school, well:

1.) As femmeney said, she never bought the name Mount Holyoke into the conversation.

2.) Making statements that trivialize the experiences of people who have disordered eating and people of color (and tagging them under Mount Holyoke, in the first instance) is absolutely cringe-inducing. I don’t want prospies, or our fellow students, who track the Mount Holyoke tag to think that lesbianathogwarts’ comments represent the entire student body and that this is a campus unfriendly to the above experiences. At Mount Holyoke, we pride ourselves on our diversity and our range of experiences, and when lesbianathogwarts tries to trivialize the experiences of a huge percentage of people at this school, I, and many other people, understandably get offended about how that reads to the outside world. 

3.) If you think it’s elitist to want Mount Holyoke to be a safe space for people of all races, I don’t know what to tell you.

4.) It would be a tragedy to silence femmeney for calling someone out.